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Dual 3090 — what changes when you add the second card

You have 2× RTX 3090s, PCIe-only (no NVLink). This page is the front door for picking a config and knowing what dual-card unlocks vs single. Model-specific deep dives (quants, Genesis, engine internals) live in the model directory — links at the bottom.


TL;DR — pick by workload

What you're doing Compose Max ctx Narr / Code TPS VRAM per card Why
General-purpose default (vision + tools + long ctx) dual.yml ⭐ 262K (237K single-prompt verified) 69 / 89 ~23.6 / 24 GB fp8 KV, 2 streams, full feature set
Multi-tenant (4 concurrent agents at full ctx) dual-turbo.yml 262K 54 / 73 per-stream (≈ 212/292 aggregate) ~24 / 24 GB TQ3 KV (3 bits/token) frees room for 4 streams
Peak code TPS with vision dual-dflash.yml 185K 82 / 125 ~23.6 / 24 GB DFlash N=5 + 1.75 GB draft per card, AL ~4.4 (vs MTP's 3.4)
Peak code TPS, no vision dual-dflash-noviz.yml 200K 78 / 127 ~23.8 / 24 GB DFlash + no vision, +15K ctx vs dual-dflash

VRAM column is per-card under TP=2 (each card holds half the weights + half the KV; both cards' totals are nearly identical). For a 2× 20 GB rig (e.g. 2× 3080-20GB / 40 GB combined), dual.yml and dual-turbo should fit; dual-dflash* won't (FP16 KV + DFlash draft pushes per-card past 20 GB). Component breakdown in tools/charts/gen-vram.py.

Run any of these via bash scripts/launch.sh (interactive) or bash scripts/switch.sh <variant>.


Measured TPS on 2× 3090

Qwen3.6-27B TPS — 2× 3090 configs (TP=2)

Bench protocol: 3 warm + 5 measured runs of the canonical narrative + code prompts on each config. Substrate: vLLM nightly dev205+g07351e088 + Genesis pinned to 917519b (v7.62.x), RTX 3090 sm_86 PCIe-only at 230 W. Per-config run-by-run + VRAM peaks: models/qwen3.6-27b/CHANGELOG.md.


VRAM budget on 2× 24 GB (TP=2)

Per-card VRAM allocation, dual-card section

Tensor parallelism (TP=2) splits weights AND KV symmetrically across both cards. Each card holds ~7 GB of weights (vs ~14 GB on single-card) plus its half of the KV pool. That's why dual unlocks what single can't:

  • 262K context + vision + 2 streams fits at ~23.6 GB / card on dual.yml (would need ~33 GB on a hypothetical single-card)
  • DFlash draft adds ~1.75 GB / card (manageable across two cards; would crowd out KV on single)
  • 4 concurrent streams via dual-turbo use TQ3 KV's compactness to fit 4 × full-context KV pools

For the single-card picture, see SINGLE_CARD.md.


Pick a config

General default — dual.yml

Workload: anything. Chat, tool agents, vision, mixed-modal. The recommended default for 2× 3090.

262K context, fp8 KV, MTP n=3, 2 streams, vision tower active. Genesis-less by design — fp8 KV doesn't trigger the cudagraph bug (#40880) that drove Genesis's existence on single-card. Pure vLLM nightly path. Tool calls work via --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder + --enable-auto-tool-choice. All verify-stress.sh checks pass clean.

When to pick: the obvious starting point. Unless one of the specialized variants below names your exact workload, this is right.

Multi-tenant — dual-turbo.yml

Workload: small team or agent farm running 2-4 concurrent sessions. Open WebUI multi-user, GitHub-Actions-with-AI-PRs flows, batch agent runs.

262K + TurboQuant 3-bit KV + Genesis patches + 4 streams. TQ3 packs each KV slot to ~3 bits/token (vs fp8's ~8 bits), which is what makes 4 × 262K pools fit on 2 cards. ~25% per-stream TPS regression vs dual.yml (54/73 vs 69/89), but aggregate throughput across 4 streams is 4× higher (~212/292 TPS combined).

When to pick: real concurrent load. Solo users won't see the win — dual.yml's single-stream is faster. Pick this only if you actually have 2+ simultaneous requests on the regular.

Peak code TPS, with vision — dual-dflash.yml

Workload: code-heavy single-stream — fast iteration on quicksort-class problems, Cline going through a codebase, Cursor doing inline completions in a heavy file.

185K context (vs 262K — DFlash's draft model takes ~1.75 GB / card), FP16 KV (forced — DFlash's non-causal head_size=256 path requires fp16), DFlash N=5 draft model from Luce z-lab. Code TPS lands at 125 vs dual.yml's 89 — a real 40% jump on code prompts thanks to DFlash's higher acceptance length (AL ~4.4 vs MTP's 3.4).

When to pick: code is the dominant workload, you want TPS over context budget, vision is still required.

Caveat: DFlash's per-position acceptance falls off faster than MTP — narrative TPS (82) is good but not dramatically better than dual.yml's 69. The win is concentrated on code/repetitive prompts.

Peak code TPS, no vision — dual-dflash-noviz.yml

Workload: same as above, but no images. Squeezes another 15K of context out of the vision-tower's space.

200K context, FP16 KV, DFlash N=5, --language-model-only. Best code TPS in the lineup at 127. Narrative is 78 (slight drop vs vision variant from compute distribution).

When to pick: pure-text code work where you'd rather have 200K than 185K. Drop vision wherever you don't need it.


What dual-card unlocks (vs single)

Want Single-card status Dual-card status
262K context + vision Works on long-vision.yml (192K) but Cliff 1 fires on big tool prefills dual.yml — clean, 262K, no Cliff 1
4 concurrent streams at full context Single-card serializes; can't fit dual-turbo.yml — 4 streams, 262K each
DFlash N=5 spec-decode Blocked: DFlash needs head_size=256 + non-causal which doesn't fit single-card head-dim split dual-dflash.yml / dual-dflash-noviz.yml
Code TPS >100 Best single-card is 67 code (default) 125-127 code (DFlash variants)
Long single prompts safely Cliff 2 fires at 50-60K on vLLM single-card (forces llama.cpp fallback at 21 TPS) TP=2 splits activation across cards — 237K single-prompt verified on dual.yml 2026-04-29 (~830 tok/s prefill, no OOM, peak 23.5 GB / card)
Big tool returns at 192K context Cliff 1 fires on TQ3 paths regardless dual.yml is below the cliff at 262K — activation budget is bigger per-card after split

Common pitfalls (dual-card specifics)

Marlin pad-sub-tile-n mount dependency

The dual variants currently mount /opt/ai/vllm-src/vllm/model_executor/kernels/linear/mixed_precision/marlin.py (and one neighbor) read-only into the container. This is our patched fork of vllm#40361 — required for AutoRound W4A16 at TP=2 where output-dim shards fall below 64. You need to clone vLLM source to /opt/ai/vllm-src/ for these composes to boot. When the upstream PR lands, we'll drop the mount.

If you don't have /opt/ai/vllm-src/:

sudo mkdir -p /opt/ai && sudo chown $USER /opt/ai
git clone https://github.com/vllm-project/vllm.git /opt/ai/vllm-src
cd /opt/ai/vllm-src && git checkout main

--disable-custom-all-reduce is set in all dual composes. Without it, vLLM tries to use a custom CUDA path that assumes NVLink topology and crashes. The trade is some allreduce latency on every layer, hence the per-stream TPS being lower than you'd see on an A100/A5000 dual setup with NVLink. Don't bother with NVLink bridges; this stack is intentionally PCIe-tested.

dual.yml is Genesis-less by design

The single-card cliffs (Cliff 1 / Cliff 2) and the cudagraph bug (#40880) that drove Genesis's existence don't fire on dual.yml — fp8 KV + 2 streams + 262K has plenty of headroom. So dual.yml runs plain vLLM nightly without any patch tree. If you want Genesis on dual (e.g. for dual-turbo's TQ3 spec-verify path), it's structurally enabled there but absent from dual.yml.

DFlash variants are FP16 KV (forced)

DFlash's combine_hidden_states path needs head_size=256 + non-causal, which forces FP16 KV on Ampere — there's no fp8 / TurboQuant alternative for this path right now. Tracked at vllm#40334. When that lands you can drop --dtype bfloat16 and let dtype auto-detect.

DFlash's vision compatibility

The DFlash draft + ViT path is documented and works (--language-model-only was historically required, now optional). dual-dflash.yml keeps vision; dual-dflash-noviz.yml drops it for an extra 15K ctx.

Single-stream user on dual = small win

If you're solo-using on dual, you're paying for hardware that mostly sits idle on alternate GPUs during single-stream decode. The win shows up at concurrency or when you need DFlash. For solo users, single-card is often the better cost choice.


Quick start

# 1. Setup (downloads model, clones Genesis + vllm-src, ~20 min cold)
bash scripts/setup.sh qwen3.6-27b
git clone https://github.com/vllm-project/vllm.git /opt/ai/vllm-src    # required for dual variants

# 2. Pick + boot via wizard (asks GPU count + workload)
bash scripts/launch.sh

# 3. Or skip the wizard:
bash scripts/launch.sh --variant vllm/dual              # general default
bash scripts/launch.sh --variant vllm/dual-turbo        # 4 streams
bash scripts/launch.sh --variant vllm/dual-dflash       # peak code + vision
bash scripts/launch.sh --variant vllm/dual-dflash-noviz # peak code, no vision

# 4. Sanity test
curl -sf http://localhost:8020/v1/chat/completions \
  -H "Content-Type: application/json" \
  -d '{"model":"qwen3.6-27b-autoround","messages":[{"role":"user","content":"Capital of France?"}],"max_tokens":200}'

# 5. Switch later without re-running setup
bash scripts/switch.sh vllm/dual-dflash    # for example
bash scripts/switch.sh --list              # show all variants

Performance summary

For variance, AL / accept rates, per-config row docstrings: see each compose YAML, plus the TPS chart for the full lineup in the top-level README.

Compose Max ctx Narr / Code TPS TTFT Concurrency Vision Best for
dual.yml 262K 69 / 89 ~145 ms 2 ✅ general default
dual-turbo.yml 262K 54 / 73 per stream ~115 ms 4 ✅ multi-tenant
dual-dflash.yml 185K 82 / 125 ~140 ms 1 ✅ code + vision
dual-dflash-noviz.yml 200K 78 / 127 ~145 ms 1 ❌ pure text code

All numbers measured 2026-04-28 on club-3090 substrate (3 warmup + 5 measured runs, canonical narrative + code prompts). Run-by-run + CV in models/qwen3.6-27b/CHANGELOG.md "Dual-card re-bench" entry.


Models supported on dual 3090

  • Qwen3.6-27B — primary model. Quant choices, Genesis patch surface (single-card), engine internals all in the model directory.
  • More models coming. As they're added, this section will list which dual-card configs each one supports.

Deep dives

  • Model README — quant choices (AutoRound INT4 / GGUF), Genesis patch surface (mostly single-card relevant), what's working / what's not.
  • INTERNALS.md — engineering rationale: AutoRound vs GPTQ, DFlash forensics, Marlin pad fork, MTP, upstream tracker.
  • VRAM allocation diagram — full per-config breakdown across single + dual.
  • FAQ.md — common questions (NVLink? AMD/Intel? Why fp8 not TQ3 on dual.yml? etc.).
  • EXAMPLES.md — Python / TS / curl client snippets + IDE connection settings.
  • HARDWARE.md — Ampere SM 8.6 specifics, NVLink (declined), power caps, PCIe topology.
  • SINGLE_CARD.md — when one card is enough.