Reported in #39 by @clort81 — the `luce-spec/llama-cpp-dflash` repo returns 404. The DFlash work consolidated into Luce-Org/lucebox-hub (verified: github.com/Luce-Org/lucebox-hub returns 200, contains dflash/ + pflash/ subdirs and dflash/deps/llama.cpp submodule). Affected files: - docs/engines/README.md (2 link sites in comparison table) - docs/engines/LLAMA_CPP.md (4 sites: intro, "Pros" table, build clone command, "See also" links) - models/qwen3.6-27b/llama-cpp/README.md (2 link sites) Plus collateral updates: - Build clone path /opt/llama-cpp-dflash → /opt/lucebox-hub (matches the new repo name; was a 3-replace via path globbing) - HF model path luce-spec/dflash-qwen3.6-27b-N5 (401 gated) → z-lab/Qwen3.6-27B-DFlash (200 public, the actually-shipping draft) + local-dir adjusted to /mnt/models/huggingface/z-lab/... matching the canonical HF model path convention - `git clone --recurse-submodules` flag added since lucebox-hub uses submodules for its bundled llama.cpp fork (in dflash/deps/llama.cpp) Updates URL framing in user-facing prose to acknowledge that lucebox-hub is a separate harness containing a llama.cpp fork rather than just being a llama.cpp fork. The recipe section build commands should be re-verified against the lucebox-hub README before treating them as canonical — this commit only updates the URL/path; the multi- step build instructions in docs/engines/LLAMA_CPP.md may need a follow-up walkthrough. CHANGELOG references to luce-spec preserved as historical context (the links were valid at the time the CHANGELOG entries were written). Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <[email protected]>
Inference engines for Qwen3.6-27B — comparison + quick recipes
This repo's main path is vLLM because it has the deepest support for Qwen3-Next features (vision, MTP, TurboQuant, full OpenAI API parity). But the model also runs on llama.cpp and SGLang with different trade-offs. This page compares the three; per-engine pages have setup instructions.
🔁 Coming from the README's Quick start? It already shipped you the vLLM path. Skim this comparison to see what the alternatives look like, then pick a per-engine page if you want to try one.
At a glance
| Engine | Status on this stack | Per-stream TPS (1× 3090) | Max ctx (1× 3090) | Vision | Tool calls | Spec-decode | OpenAI API parity |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| vLLM ⭐ | Validated, production-grade (this repo) | 50-53 narr / 66-70 code | 48K default · 75K IDE-agent · 198K vision · 214K text-only | ✅ | ✅ | ✅ MTP n=3 | ✅ Full |
| llama.cpp | Works mainline + Luce DFlash fork for spec-decode | 35-60 (varies by quant + KV type) | 262K (Q4_K_M + q4_0 KV) | ✅ (via mmproj) | ⚠️ Limited (no auto-tool-choice in server) | ✅ DFlash N=5 in fork | ⚠️ Partial |
| SGLang | Blocked by same Marlin pad-sub-tile-n bug (vllm#40361 / sglang equivalent); EAGLE spec-decode separately blocked by GDN/DeltaNet rollback | n/a (untested at this state) | n/a | ✅ | ✅ | ⚠️ EAGLE blocked on hybrid | ✅ Full |
Pros / cons matrix
vLLM ⭐
Pros:
- Deepest Qwen3-Next feature support upstream
- TurboQuant 3-bit KV cache (lets us reach 198K + vision or 214K text-only on a single 3090; 262K dual-card)
- MTP speculative decoding works out of the box
- Genesis patch ecosystem (Sandermage's tree fixes many compatibility edges)
- Full OpenAI API parity (chat, vision, tools, streaming, reasoning, structured output)
- Active development — bugs we hit get triaged within days
Cons:
- Heavyweight — Docker image is ~9 GB
- Longer cold-start (~2 min for compile + cudagraph capture)
- Sensitive to upstream API drift across nightly versions (we pin to a specific nightly SHA —
7a1eb8ac=0.20.1rc1.dev16since 2026-05-01 — to avoid this) - Frontier features sometimes ship with bugs we have to patch around (the whole reason this repo exists)
When to pick: Production / serious local work / anything that needs the full feature set.
llama.cpp
Pros:
- Lightweight — single binary, ~50 MB
- Fastest cold-start (~30 sec)
- Lowest VRAM overhead (no inference framework taxes)
- GGUF support for many quant formats (Q4_K_M, Q5_K_S, IQ4_XS, etc.)
- Works on AMD + Intel + Apple Silicon (vLLM is NVIDIA-only)
- Active community, lots of distros / wrappers (Ollama, LM Studio, LocalAI, etc.)
Cons:
- Qwen3-Next family support is a moving target — needs the right binary build
- Server feature parity behind vLLM (no auto-tool-choice in upstream
server; need wrapper) - DFlash spec-decode requires a fork (Luce's llama-cpp-dflash)
- Concurrent serving is single-threaded by default (the server forks per request — sluggish under concurrent load)
- No TurboQuant equivalent → max usable context is much lower (~64K with Q4_K_M on 24 GB)
When to pick: Quick experiments, embedded use, non-NVIDIA hardware, when you want simplicity over feature completeness.
SGLang
Pros:
- Designed for high-throughput serving — RadixAttention prefix sharing, structured-output-aware scheduling
- Often beats vLLM by 10-30% on multi-tenant throughput when both work
- First-class OpenAI API
- Good support for batched structured output (constraint decoding)
Cons:
- Currently blocked on this stack by the same Marlin pad-sub-tile-n bug we hit on vLLM TP=2. Same kernel-line fix applies (would need a similar patch on SGLang's side or for them to pick up the upstream fix).
- EAGLE spec-decode (their MTP equivalent) is separately blocked by the DeltaNet/GDN hybrid layer not supporting KV rollback — this is a Qwen3-Next architectural issue, not SGLang-specific.
- Smaller community than vLLM; fewer eyes on Qwen3-Next bugs.
When to pick: Production multi-tenant serving on models that work cleanly on it (not yet Qwen3.6-27B-int4-AutoRound — track the unblock list below).
Watch list to unblock SGLang on this stack:
- Marlin pad-sub-tile-n landing (we filed PR #40361 on vLLM; the same fix applies to SGLang's Marlin call site)
- DeltaNet KV rollback support upstream (vllm#39931 / issue #40124 land would unblock EAGLE on Qwen3-Next family across engines)
How to choose
| Your priority | Pick | Why |
|---|---|---|
| Full feature set, MTP spec-decode, OpenAI API parity | vLLM + Lorbus AutoRound | This repo's path. 51-70 TPS depending on workload, all features, prefill-safe at 48K default. |
| Maximum context (262K) on one 3090 | llama.cpp + UD-Q3_K_XL or Q4_K_M + q4_0 KV | Smaller quants leave 8-10 GB headroom for KV at 262K. ~35-45 TPS sustained. |
| Best concurrent throughput on dual 3090 | vLLM TP=2 + Turbo (TQ3) | 4 streams at full 262K, ~200 TPS aggregate. See companion repo. |
| Non-NVIDIA hardware (AMD / Intel / Apple) | llama.cpp | Only engine with cross-platform support. |
| Lightest setup, fastest cold start | llama.cpp | Single binary, ~30s cold start. Good for embedded use, quick experiments. |
| High-throughput multi-tenant serving | SGLang (when unblocked — currently blocked on Qwen3.6) | RadixAttention prefix sharing wins at scale. Watch list in SGLANG.md. |
Quant choice (orthogonal to engine choice)
The model itself comes in several quant formats. Engine-quant compatibility:
| Quant | Disk size | Engine fit | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| AutoRound int4 (Lorbus) | ~18-19 GB | vLLM ✅ · llama.cpp ❌ · SGLang (when unblocked) | This repo's choice. W4A16, group_size=128, BF16 mtp.fc head. Required for vLLM's MTP spec-decode. |
| GPTQ int4 | ~16.5-17 GB | vLLM ✅ · llama.cpp ❌ · SGLang ✅ | Mature, broadly supported. Slightly smaller disk than AutoRound. |
| AWQ int4 | ~16-17 GB | vLLM ✅ · llama.cpp ❌ · SGLang ✅ | Strong baseline, compatible with Marlin kernels. |
| GGUF Q4_K_M | ~16.8 GB | llama.cpp ✅ · vLLM ⚠️ experimental · SGLang ❌ | The default GGUF mid-range quant. Strong quality, broad ecosystem (Ollama, LM Studio, etc). |
| GGUF UD-Q3_K_XL (Unsloth) | ~14.5 GB | llama.cpp ✅ | Smaller than 4-bit options. Quality cost is small on Qwen3.6 (quantization-friendly), buys substantial KV cache room. |
| GGUF Q3_K_M | ~13.6 GB | llama.cpp ✅ | More aggressive 3-bit; quality cost real but acceptable for many workloads. |
AutoRound vs GPTQ vs AWQ (within vLLM)
All three are 4-bit weight-only quantization for vLLM. Differences:
| Aspect | AutoRound | GPTQ | AWQ |
|---|---|---|---|
| Method | Signed gradient descent jointly optimizing rounding + scaling | Layer-wise Hessian-based error minimization | Activation-aware salience scaling, then RTN |
| Calibration set | Small (~128-512 samples) | Larger (~1024-2048) | Small-medium |
| Quantization time | Minutes to ~1-2 hours for 27B | Slower for same model | Fast |
| Accuracy at 4-bit | Typically slightly best on hard reasoning (MMLU/GPQA/Math style) | Strong baseline; 0.5-2% behind AutoRound on average | Comparable to GPTQ; depends on tuning |
| Ultra-low bits (3, 2) | Strongest at <4 bit | Degrades faster below 4 bit | Middle of the pack |
| Marlin kernel support | ✅ (via the kernel-line fix in our vllm#40361) | ✅ (mature) | ✅ |
| Ecosystem | Newer, growing fast (Intel-maintained) | Most mature, broadest tool support | Strong vLLM/SGLang support |
Why we picked AutoRound for this repo: Lorbus's AutoRound quant ships mtp.fc.weight as BF16 (preserved at higher precision), which lets vLLM's Qwen3_5MTP loader actually load the head and run multi-token prediction at high acceptance rates (~80% per-position-1, AL ~3.5). GPTQ-quantized variants of the MTP head silently fail to load → 0% draft acceptance. So AutoRound isn't just "slightly better quality" here — it's the only path to working MTP spec-decode in vLLM today.
If MTP isn't a priority for your workload, GPTQ or AWQ are equally valid.
Per-engine pages
- VLLM.md — current setup (what this repo ships). Brief recap + tuning levers.
- LLAMA_CPP.md — quick GGUF recipe, vision via mmproj, Luce DFlash fork pointer for spec-decode, gotchas around server feature parity.
- SGLANG.md — current blocked state, what would unblock, when to revisit. TBD recipe placeholder until either Marlin pad lands upstream or DeltaNet rollback lands.
See also
- docs/INTERNALS.md — why this repo picked vLLM specifically (the 9-probe forensics + upstream tracker)
- docs/SINGLE_CARD.md and docs/DUAL_CARD.md — workload-specific configs by hardware count
- LEARNINGS.md (parent stack) — why vLLM, why these patches